Saturday, May 16, 2009

A Sad Day for the Church in America
























13 comments:

Deirdre Mundy said...

Hey Erin! We're leaving for the Mass/rally/Rosary thing at ND in a few minutes... I'll let you know how it goes!

(Hoping the Randall Terry crowd doesn't show up and disrupt things. Thousands of Catholics praying the Rosary at the grotto should be the image the media takes from this, not the crazy blood-spattered baby-carriage guy.

How can you convince people that your position is the only rational one when all the people they see representing it act like madmen?)

tomray7 said...

Deirdre,

Remember, in all this, that Randall Terry isn't one of the bad guys. Your efforts with the Rosary are commendable. I wish I could be there with you. (I live overseas.) I wish there were more people like you. Your prayers for the conversion of Jenkins and Obama on this issue are needed. Those men need to change their hearts a lot more than Randall Terry needs to change his tactics.

I am not persuaded that Randall Terry's tactics are ineffective.

Distancing ourselves from the Jenkins position is a matter of principle. Distancing yourself from the Randall Terry position is a matter of tactics preferred.

Red Cardigan said...

Deirdre, please do let me know how it goes! How wonderful that you get to be present for this.

Tomray7, I think Deirdre has a point. I think Obama would like nothing better than to have the media portray all the protesters as "professional agitator" types complete with props etc. Whether one agrees with Terry's way of protesting or not, the sight of a large number of ordinary Catholics protesting Obama's presence at ND would be a much more effective message.

MATEO MIGUEL ROMERO said...

I am having trouble with how the world is protraying Obama as Catholic. Nowhere have I read that Obama has been baptized into Catholocism, made a first Communion, and underwent the right of Confirmation. Evidently he was Muslim as a child, went to Catholic school for two years but left, and then was Baptized into the Christian faith - The United Church of Christ is not a Catholic Church but is a Christian Church. I am diheartened that people, who are "not Catholic," are being honored by Catholic educational institutions.

shacoria said...

from reading this alone i have to say that you are awesome. i love this.

Anonymous said...

Please excuse my ignorance, but can you give me some background on these church marquees? Are these real? Were these churches really having a kind of conversation with each other? If so, where are they? And is St. Progressive's a real church, or is that a doctored photo? Thank you.

Red Cardigan said...

No, Anonymous, the church signs aren't real.

If you go to the address on the signs, "churchsigngenerator.com," you can see how to make your own signs.

Several Catholic bloggers I'm aware of have used these signs to make "talking" church signs, and since I liked the idea I've done it myself a couple of times here on this blog.

Thanks so much for reading!

Anonymous said...

Thanks, Red. I appreciate the quick response. And keep up the good work. You have a great blog.

MATEO MIGUEL ROMERO said...

I am disheartened that a Catholic educational institution is honoring someone, whom is not Catholic. I have read nowhere that Obama has been Baptized into Catholocism, made the first Communion, and underwent the right of Confirmation! Evidently, Obama attended a Catholic school but left after two years (reason unknown), was Muslim, but then was baptized into the Trinity United Church of Christ - a Christian church that is not a Catholic diocese! I am disheartened that the Catholic educational institutions are honoring someone, whom is "not Catholic!"

Deirdre Mundy said...

Erin-- I emailed you my summary-- It's way too long for the comments, though. =)

Quick sum-up - Very cool, very crowded, great speakers, family friendly, reverent Mass

Anonymous said...

Speaking of quoting scripture ... It's also possible to use it. For example, Ps 146:3 was likely written by a "prince", or someone under his authority (an official singer under Israel's King, e.g.) Therefore it should have even more meaning for us.
And, if we take "prince" to mean 'governmental authority', then we're being counseled to put no trust in Obama ... or [either] Bush, or Putin, or Henry VIII, or Henri IV, or ...

In that case, why take part in elections and other movements exalting these men to authority over other men? Especially if it puts us under obligation to obey them as respective Commanders-in-Chief, when they order their sworn followers to go to war with each other. That shows respect for all life.

One government all Christians should be able to support without reservation, and without incurring God's wrath, is this one:
"... Thy Kingdom Come, Thy will be done on earth ...

Regards, Doug

nearstar said...

Hey MATEO MIGUEL ROMERO, I don't remember Bush being baptised either, but he was "honored" there, too - even after presiding over 150 executions while governor of Texas.

Serr8d said...

Great effort with the Church Sign Generator (they've added or changed a few since I've been there, it seems.)

I made and posted this pshop; thought you might enjoy it.

Best,
Serr