Tuesday, March 16, 2010

Why do I write about the Legion?

I received an email earlier today from a reader who wondered why, as he put it, the Legion is a "hot-button" topic for me. It's a fair question; some readers may not realize I've written about the Legion before all of this year's revelations, and in any case I don't mind sharing where I'm coming from on this issue.

As I wrote back to my correspondent, I first knew people who had been involved with the Legion, some of whom had spent time in a Legion seminary, a little more than twenty years ago, when I was a college student. Prior to that time, if I'd thought of the Legion at all, I'd simply thought of them as one of the new young vibrant religious orders out there, who were challenging some of the erroneous thinking that had gotten hold of religious life after Vatican II, and who were reverting to such sound practices as traditional habits, older forms of prayers and devotions, and unwavering fidelity to the Church and the Pope.

But I started to hear some odd things from the people who had been involved, stories that didn't add up to the picture the Legion presented of itself to the world. There were stories of how ordinary, orthodox Catholic prayer books were confiscated from seminarians, and replaced with books reportedly written by Father Maciel. There was Father Maciel's title, "Nuestro Padre," (Our Father) a Spanish title for God Himself. Maciel's picture hung on the walls of the seminary; Maciel's letters were read aloud to the seminarians at meals, in place of writings from the saints, Scripture readings, or other ordinary sorts of spiritual material. There were minute rules governing everything from elaborate table manners to the parting of one's hair.

Besides all of that, though, there was an overwhelming amount of secrecy. The rule of charity meant, in practical reality, that one was never allowed to say anything negative about the Legion either within the Legion or without it. Anyone who had doubts about continuing on in the Legion was encouraged to suppress such doubts--all doubts were of the Enemy, who was trying to condemn not only the "failed Legionary" but all the souls that future priest would be responsible for. We now know that this environment where only positive things were allowed to be said or discussed helped Maciel greatly to cover up the irregularities and sins of his way of life, but even when none of us knew about that I thought this understanding of "charity," which forbade intellectual criticism of things that were not working well even among those who honestly wished the Legion success was extremely odd and likely counterproductive.

And the third leg of this wobbly three-legged stool was that no one, not even those still inside the Legion, could seem to say what being a Legionary priest (as opposed to a diocesan priest or Franciscan priest or Dominican priest, etc.) was supposed to be all about. There was a very long process from the time someone entered a seminary until he was ordained, for instance--but there didn't seem to be some cohesive, comprehensive program of education or study. There were Legion priests teaching in schools inside and outside America--but the order was not a teaching order. There were Legion priests helping out in various diocesan parishes--but the order was not tied to a diocese, and didn't always have good relationships in dioceses where it had a strong presence. There were Legion priests in the media--but they were not at all like the Daughters of St. Paul whose whole apostolate is communication. If you asked a Legion priest what the order's charism was, you were likely to get an enthusiastic statement about serving God through the Legion and the Movement (and, in those days, quite a bit thrown in about Father Maciel)--but nothing that could be distilled to a simple idea or a specific way of life. The Legion did a little of everything, most especially those things which increased the Legion; the charism could almost have been said to be, "To grow the Movement!" To grow it to do what? one might ask--but the answer would be condescension; growing God's great work of the Movement and the Legion was enough charism for anybody.

Did I perceive all of this, all at once? No. The accounts from people I knew, the growing sense that something just wasn't quite--right--with this order, the demonstrable focus on and adoration of Maciel in a way that really did seem unfitting for a man who was still very much alive, having these impressions reinforced whenever I did encounter the Legion or its apostolates--all of that took time. The stories I read on the Internet of people who had been quite badly treated by the Legion following their separation from either the Legion or Regnum Christi, and the stories of women who'd nearly lost their marriages over their involvement in Regnum Christi apostolates, added to the picture that was slowly being assembled, because in these stories I heard echoes of things people had told me, experiences they or their friends or family members had also had. A pattern was emerging, but it was not--back then--a clear picture.

The final piece of the puzzle was Maciel's "invitation" to a life of retirement and prayer, followed by his death and the revelation of the scandal that his life really had been. At that point, it all finally made sense: Maciel was neither a great holy man on a mission from God, nor an ordinary man whose vision for the Legion was more ambitious than his own talents allowed him to create. He was, instead, a charlatan and a fraud, a licentious liar who had more in common with the founder of a certain Hollywood-trendy science-fiction based religion than with any saintly Catholic founder of any Catholic religious order. The whole Legion was, at least from Maciel's likely perspective, a singularly successful con on a truly magnificent scale.

It is the rare con artist who can keep conning people after his death, but there are those still in the Legion and Regnum Christi who are being gulled, even now, into believing that Maciel meant well, that God (Who writes straight with crooked lines) still intended the founding of the Legion to build up the Movement--er, rather, His Kingdom--and that once the Legion rides the storm of the present unpleasantness it may be possible to place Nuestro Padre's pictures back on the wall here and there, and to speak approvingly of all the good he did, with a quick twist of the mouth to acknowledge the bad when that is necessary. Or, perhaps Rome will identify some other person as the founder and the source of the charism, so that instead of "Nuestro Padre" the Legion will learn to speak of "Nuestro Fundadores," which is so slight a change it will hardly be felt. Once that happens, the great work of God which is the Legion can continue to build up the Legion and grow the Movement so that every Catholic will come to see how necessary the Legion and the Movement are for living the truly best Catholic way of life...

If I could see massive signs of change from within the Legion at this point, if there were a humble acknowledgment coming from the present leadership that yes, indeed, there is a great deal about the Legion which is deeply flawed because of Maciel, that everything needs to be questioned and challenged, and that at the very least the insistence that the Legion and Regnum Christi provide anybody with a sure, easy path to holiness needs to go away, now--that would be one thing. But so long as what I see is quite the opposite, I'm going to be compelled to write about the Legion whenever news events make it a timely topic, if only so that other people who are trying to piece together the whole picture may begin to see it clearly; because I could not see it clearly myself, if others before me hadn't also spoken and written to share what they knew.

41 comments:

Beth said...

It is good you write about LC.

Every individual involved in the LC and all their supporting groups needs to ask themselves, "Would I belong to any other group whose founder is a lying peophile embezzelor...(among other things)? Could they really answer, "yes" in all good conscience?
Only those who perhaps have already been brainwashed and have no ability to read infomation like what is written hear--they need to hear others opinions about the matter not just how it is filtered thru the LC/RC spin machine.

Eric said...

Well put, Red. Thanks.

Frank I said...

Red -

Came by here via Catholic Light. I have been following the L/R discussion for a long time. Won't go into my entire saga here, but my introduction to the Legion was their summer Candidacy program, which basically was a 2-month long hard sell that it is God's will for me to join the legion. Oddly enough, we had two men in our candidacy program who were overweight and not from wealthy families. The legion let them know within a few days that they did not sense these young men as having a call. Wish they would have done the same for me.

Anyway, I just wanted to say that this is the best summary I have read for a journey that many of us have taken. The journey begins with things not adding up about the Legion, then you notice a pattern, then you begin connecting the dots.

Give thanks to God this St. Patrick's day. Your Catholic sensibilities managed to help you see through the legion fog, and the bullshit radar that God gave you (no offence to the Lord, of course) is fully operational.

Excellent addition to the discussion!

TROLL said...

Beth, there are lots of corrupt men who started good things around. Exclude the LC apostolates for youth, then exclude Life Teen, then exclude any religious order that works with the young that had pedophiles in it, then don't be part of a diocese where the bishop was a pedophile, or supported pedophile priests. And why limit your lists of sins to pedophilia? How about anything relating to sex, to money, to power. And then when you are down only to yourself, wonder why nobody is as good as you are.

I would suggest reading St. Augustine against the Donatist heretics. You can find those excellent readings at this source:

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf104.v.html

Lauretta said...

Troll,

Again I will say, is there not a difference between an individual priest or bishop committing sex abuse and the founder of an order who is forming the whole group according to his thinking and actions?

Anyone, particularly a male, who is sexually abused when young is much more likely than the average person to continue the abuse.

Maciel abused probably 50 or more males in his group and a number of them went on to abuse others. He also deformed their consciences by telling them that he had permission from the Pope, it was okay for health reasons, etc. This would tend to make sex abuse an intrinsic part of the Legion in a way that it is not in any other order.

An abusive bishop does not have nearly the control over individuals in the way that Maciel did. This makes the difference between a bishop abusing and the founder of an order abusing very marked in my opinion.

Kim said...

Thanks, Erin, for this post and for sharing everything you have about the legion. It is very helpful.

Any thoughts on Opus Dei?

TROLL said...

Lauretta, You ask: is there not a difference between an individual priest or bishop committing sex abuse and the founder of an order who is forming the whole group according to his thinking and actions?

My answer: no, because they are all formators, and they are all abusing the trust put into them by entire communities.

You say: Maciel abused probably 50 or more males in his group and a number of them went on to abuse others.

That is a serious accusation that has to be proven. And you have not proved it. Pete Vere at Catholic Light has a list of men who were abused by Fr. Maciel. Vere feels that they are owed an apology.

However, if I were to use your reasoning, all of them would have been guilty of abusing in turn the young people entrusted to them.

I refuse to accept your thesis, and I refuse to accept your assertions because they are not based on solid facts. They are pure speculation and fabrication.

Beth said...

Troll,

I pretty much agree with Loretta.

But I do struggle with belonging to the Catholic church as well with all the sickness and dysfunstion present in the hierarchy of our church. So it is certainly a question I ask myself.

Although I do believe there is a difference between belonging to LC and RC. Are you a member? It muct be awfully painfully for you to be going through this time with such revelations made about the truth after all these years of LC crying persecution.

Red Cardigan said...

I appreciate everyone's comments and kind words!

Troll, I also agree with Lauretta--when a religious order's founder has been this corrupt, there is trouble for the order, whether we like to admit it or not.

Kim, I don't know a lot about Opus Dei, having not encountered many of its members or personally experienced any aspect of it. I do think that having a canonized founder is a good sign.

TROLL said...

Red Cardigan, that sexual abuse causes trouble is something that we can agree upon. However, the sexual abuse has to be real, and not some speculation coming out of someone's head. Making false accusations also causes trouble.

Lauretta said...

Troll,

Aaron from LifeAfterRC was abused by a Legion priest when he was in their seminary. He traced the abuse back through, I believe, five men to Maciel. He knew for a fact that all but one of them had been abused by their superior at one point. The only one he had not heard from directly was under a Legion priest that he knew had abused others so he speculates that the unknown priest had been abused also. There are numerous cases of Legion priests besides Maciel that are sex abusers, but even besides that there is the mental and spiritual de-formation that occurs.

Yes, all abusers are misusing their authority and the trust put in them but that is where the similarity ends. When the person who begins a group, begins it by sexually abusing his successors and de-forming their consciences so that they think it is okay, that is serious trouble. Not to mention that in an order such as this, the abuser has constant access to his victims as long as they are part of the order.

As soon as I heard that the Legion seminarians slept in their own rooms, I was concerned. There was no one to witness anything that may have occurred because they were all isolated from one another. A superior could come in at any time and abuse them and no one would know the difference.

I'm not saying that the abuse of the founder of an order is necessarily worse than that of say, a bishop, on the victim but his abuse will probably be much more far-reaching because he is teaching a pattern of abuse to all those he controlled.

Boarding schools, orphanages, etc. all have the potential to be very bad places for abuse to occur because the children cannot get away and their parents are not there to protect them. In the case of an order, this danger never ends for them as long as they stay, whereas, in a boarding school or orphanage, you do leave at some point.

Red Cardigan said...

Troll, a look at the number of credible accusers:

" According to John L. Allen Jr., the ace Vatican correspondent, Msgr. Scicluna gave the number of accusers as "more than 20, but less than 100" (NCRonline.org, May 18, 2006)."

Source here:

http://www.newoxfordreview.org/article.jsp?did=0906-editorial

It may be that 50 men were abused by Maciel. It may be as few as 21, or it may be as many as 99. All we know is "more than 20, less than 100."

(Thanks to the reader who sent this information!)

Anonymous said...

The one, holy, Catholic and apostolic Church is our means to salvation. If Bishops or priests are abusing, it is terrible but it will never make me leave my salvation because of it (my faith may be rocked though).

If a founder of an Order is abusing and we know the ONLY reason for any order to exist is to have a charism that supports the needs of the Church and not themselves - that is a whole different story. The Lord does not need orders to build His Church. They can come and go as needed as they have through the centuries. They should only stand if they support Holy Mother Church and any LC/RC who truly loves the Lord and his Church should be totally detached from the LC/RC and the outcome of the visitation.

Noone in their right mind would ever join an order that they knew the Founder was a fraud, sexual abuser, plagiarist, con-artist, and the list goes on. The founder being a fraud severely impacts the supposed charism, methodology and purpose of the group. It is all up for grabs....although the sad thing is the LC hierarchy do not see it that way. They are treating the LC/RC the same way we would treat the dogma and truth of the Church if we found out terrible things about the Pope.

If the Pope was all those things (as some Popes in the past have been corrupt) - that would never tarnish the truth of the Catholic Church. It is our salvation and founded on Jesus Christ. It will never be corrupted. The gates of hell will not prevail is what the Lord promised and to be honest, as an ex RC girl, that is the only thing that keeps me going!

Anonymous said...

On the numbers, Juan Vaca stated

"Vaca said 28 other young seminarians were sexually abused by Maciel at the same time he was, and adds that some of them "went on to abuse others as they grew up."

in the aol article:

http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/secretive-catholic-order-founded-by-accused-pedophile-under-fire/19398262

and I wonder if the LC/RC defenders will still not believe him.

TROLL said...

If someone was abused, a criminal act, why have they not pressed charges against their abuser?

Spreading innuendo is hardly an appropriate response.

Hearsay is not hard evidence.

If you have nothing more than that to substantiate your accusations, I am not going to take them seriously. Instead, I will see them as malicious.

Shame on you for spreading them.

Red Cardigan said...

Troll, you can't be serious.

Many victims of clerical sexual abuse did not go to the police or file charges against their abusers. Heck, many rape victims are too frightened to press charges against their rapists. Do you call them all liars and smugly assert that the rape or abuse never happened, because the victim didn't have enough evidence to take his or her abuser to court?

Let me guess--you want to see the DNA evidence on Maciel's children, too, before you'll accept them as his, even though the Legion has acknowledged them. Am I right?

TROLL said...

Yes, people have to prove their allegations beyond a reasonable doubt. And what is wrong with that?

Lauretta said...

So, Troll, how would someone who had been sexually abused years ago prove it beyond a reasonable doubt?

Do you not realize that in essence you are calling the victims who have come forward liars? Put yourself in that position and think about how you would feel having someone challenge you when it was so difficult to divulge in the first place.

We know that the Church believes Maciel sexually abused people because of the "retirement" he was given. We don't need to have the victims prove it to us because the Church already accepts their testimony. It is a small step to accept that very possibly some of those Maciel abused went on to abuse others.

I believe that one report I read said that 70% of the priests who had been accused of abusing others in the U.S. had been abused themselves. It is a self-perpetuating abuse unfortunately.

Pete Vere said...

The source of the quote "more than 20, less than 100" is Msgr. Charles Sicluna, who was Cardinal Ratzinger's promoter of justice (lead prosecutor) at the CDF. He remained so when Cardinal Ratzinger became Pope Benedict, where he oversaw the Maciel case and has since confirmed that Maciel was guilty. Pope Benedict obviously agreed with Msgr Scicluna's findings since the decision to punish Maciel was ultimately the Pope's. Somehow, I don't see the Pope taking this kind of action against the founder of a large order on the basis of malicious gossip.

TROLL said...

To make things clear, it is not the fact that MM was a sex abuser that is being discussed.

It is the unfounded allegations that LC's are pedophiles.

There is no solid proof of this, only speculation.

Child sexual abuse is a major problem within the school system, a problem much greater than any clerical sex abuse. Does this mean that all teachers are sex abusers because they themselves would have been taught by teachers?

This does not prevent certain teenage girls from accusing their teachers of sex abuse simply because they do not like them.

If you have no evidence of wrong doing by the LC's you are guilty of the same behaviour as those teenage girls.

I, for one, am not going to stand for that. And fair minded people won't either.

So, Red Cardigan, you can take all the small steps to Hell that you want, along with the crowd you keep company with.

Lauretta said...

Ttoll,
Would you like to tell Aaron Loughery from Ireland that there is no proof of Legion sex abuse? He is the one the stated that he was sexually abused, the man who abused him was sexually abused by a Legion priest, that man was abused by a Legion priest, who was in turn abused by a Legion priest who was abused by Maciel. He is not bitter or vengeful but he wants everyone to know the facts so that others do not have to have their lives harmed in the way that his was.

The school system comparison just doesn't work since no one has ever, to my knowledge, set up a school for teaching teachers that was begun by a sex abuser who had total control over the teachers' lives and manipulated their consciences' to make them think it was okay.

This is what a Legion moral theologian at their college in Rome said on one of the comment boxes a year or so ago:
"3) About the victims, I would like to say also something.  I hope I am not misunderstood.  My heart if three times broken for them (for the real ones): for what happened to them, because most of us did not believe them (I explained lengthy why it was so difficult to believe them in another post) and also because justice, thus, is taking so long.  I want to add, though, that I have spoken very recently with one of the real victims, who never spoke of this before.  His experience is not of an “unspeakable hell”.  He never gave it too much importance, because it was not done with violence.  At the time he did not consider it to be a sin because Fr. Maciel would know better and he himself didn’t confess it either.  He has also told me of other two victims he knows and that also for them there wasn’t any hell.  They continued in the Legion for long years without a problem.  Please, I hope I am not misunderstood.  I don’t want to deny the gravity and the hell that some of the victims may have experienced at the time and afterwards.  I am just pointing that that is not the experience of all the victims. Another fact to consider is that some of the victims became legionary priests and left the Legion only afterwards (after twenty years or so…) for other reasons."

And remember, this is a moral theologian teaching Legion seminarians and priests.

If a person doesn't think that the abuse he received was a big deal, do you think that then he would think it was a big deal to ask a young man to do the same for him?

Anonymous said...

Dear TROLL, if you are RC, I invite you to go to your next Encounter and speak as openly with your fellow RCs, expound on all these thoughts you have about the sexual abuse, call the accusations lies. It will be very telling for the good and holy well-meaning members of your team. Maybe it will be enough to make them shake their heads and run for the nearest Adoraton chapel and guidance out of this blighted movement.

You are a perfect advertisement for the cultish damage of RC.

TROLL said...

Aaron Loughery is a coward.

If he had any integrity, he would press charges, and let whoever was accused mount a defense in a proper court of law that would determine his guilt or innocence beyond a reasonable doubt.

Instead, he mounts a whispering campaign, and you gossipers willingly participate. Where is that angel with the flaming coal to purify all your mouths?

Lauretta said...

Troll,

I am assuming that you are a Regnum member with my comments. If not, you can just disregard what I am saying.

For a group that touts its charism as being that of charity, I see so many examples on these blogs from members that are so uncharitable. How do you know, unless you have done it yourself, what it takes to press charges on a matter such as this? I could see where it would be quite emotionally distressing to have to address this in a court of law.

It isn't even only on these blogs that the lack of charity manifests itself. The statement put out by Legion a few weeks ago about Maciel's son who was requesting money from them was another example of uncharitable behavior. How anyone could make such harsh statements about people who have been victimized in this way is hard to imagine. Just another one of the "fruits" of belonging to this group, I guess.

Anonymous said...

"Where is that angel with the flaming coal to purify all your mouths?"

Working on Maciel's, right about now. We've got a loooooong wait....

Anonymous said...

Troll - wow, I am speachless. Aaron already went to the police in Ireland about his abuse and got nailed by the LC for it..if I recall, I think that is why he said it was not worth it to sue. We have already watched how the LC has treated any and all who have come forward as a victim of Maciel and his system.

He should not have to sue, the LC should just do the right thing.

Anonymous said...

Troll, God have mercy on your soul. These things you say today, you will pay for. Shame. Shame. Shame on you. With all your hateful vicious statements it is obvious you are protecting someone. Is it the LC that you secretly wish to be married to? Shame on your infedility to your husband and to Christ. Shame. Shame. Shame on you!

Anonymous said...

Is Troll not also "Not Richard" on Catholic Light? Then shame on Monk for defending Troll all the time!

Anonymous said...

I believe this person has an LC in the family and is suffering terribly from the criticism of the Legion.

Troll/RC/Not Richard, you do your loved one in the Legion no favors with this sort of depraved comment!

What a sad witness to the deforming effects of the movement.

Lauretta said...

After pondering your latest comments for a time, Troll, this Scripture came to mind (1 Cor 6:1-7):

"How can anyone with a case against another dare bring it for judgment to the wicked and not to God's holy people? Do you not know that the believers will judge the world? If the judgment of the world is to be yours, are you to be thought unworthy of judging in minor matters? Do you not know that we are to judge angels? Surely, then, we are up to deciding everyday affairs. If you have such matters to decide, do you accept as judges those who have no standing in the church? I say this in an attempt to shame you. Can it be that there is no one among you wise enough to settle a case between one member of the church an another? Must brother drag brother into court, and before unbelievers at that? Why, the very fact that you have lawsuits against one another is disastrous for you."

Maybe is more of a Christian than most of us.

Aaron said...

Troll - Perhaps you should enlighten yourself.

I made a formal complaint to the Legion superiors against my abuser via my diocese in 2001. I was told that they wondered how I could come up with such a story and was reminded by the Legion that a person is innocent until proven guilty.

Later I reported what happened to the Irish Police. My motivation was a continued horror and fear that my abuser was still abusing in Medellin, Colombia, where he was director of a school, a superior of LC community and head of RC youth section at national level.

I understood that this would mean telling the police face to face what happened, about possibly repeating that in court and being subject to questioning by lawyers. I was prepared to do that although it was certainly a frightening prospect.

My abuser was immediately removed from ministry and sent back to Ireland. The school in Colombia was told he returned to visit sick family members. A few months later he left the priesthood and receives or at least receieved a substantial monthly contribution from the Legion.

The Department of Public Prosecutions decided that there was not enough evidence to press charges against Eoghan, that it was simply my word against his, and I must admit I was relieved that I did not have to go to court, although it was not the ideal outcome. At that stage I was satisfied that he would not be in a position to harm children or be in authority. I must also say that I did not want him to go to prison, I did not want punishment or revenge. I wanted, and I want, protection for vulnerable children around him, I want him to heal, I want reconciliation.

On both occasions I offered to meet with Eoghan to find resolution. In 2001 I chose not to meet him as I perhaps naievly didnt think he would deny it. I did not want to meet him in a situation where he could still hurt me emotionally - with no trust in me shown by neither by the Legion.

In 2004 I again offered to meet him after he left the Legion. I thought that perhaps without LC interference some reconciliation could be made. His lawyers told me again via my diocese that he had no intention of meeting me.

Perhaps that was for the better.

I don't know if I am a coward or not, but I honestly do not think that I have regretted doing or not doing any of the above.

It gives me great peace to know he is not a priest.

Nevertheless, to hear that a fellow novice of mine has been accused of asking children the same sexually invasive questions that I was asked by our Novice Master, my abuser, as part of his grooming process was frightening.

From the very start I presented my fears of intergenerational abuse, tracing abuse through generations - I believe my abuser is a victim too. What happened in the Irish Institute last year echoes what happened to me.

I may point out that Eoghan is free to press charges against me for libel if he so wishes to defend himself.

Troll, I cannot make you nor expect you to believe me, but I'm not so sure that I am a coward.

Aaron said...

PS the statute of limitations was also a factor - I had also consulted with two seperate lawyers about this.

The statute of limitations for a civil claim is three years after the age of 18.

I was asked to leave the Legion three years after I turned 18. This is probably a coincidence, but the fact remains I was unable to pursue a civil claim because of the statute.

And I don't think I have made a whispering campaign - I have spoken quite strongly and clearly, providing detail as much as I can with the intention of PREVENTING FURTHER ABUSE.

Bonum, Verum, Pulchrum said...

Aaron, you are no coward.

Red Cardigan said...

Aaron, God bless you for writing this here. I appreciate your courage and your willingness to attack directly from your own terrible experience the tactics of the Legion.

I also appreciate the insight you give into those who ask about the Scandal generally, "Why weren't the priest/abusers put in jail? Why weren't the bishops put in jail?" etc. It is a terrible reality, but no less a reality, that cases involving sexual abuse of any kind (child abuse, rape, incest etc.) are frustratingly difficult to prosecute. Such cases nearly always come down to one person's word against another's, and while that doesn't make the victims' accounts untrue--far from it!--it is rare that a victim can present what satisfies the legal requirements for prosecution (let alone conviction).

That you would persevere, knowing this, but also knowing that what you were doing was worth it to see that no others were harmed, was a deeply holy and courageous thing to do. You'll never know this side of Heaven how many others you might have saved from the horror you suffered, but God knows, and He will bless you for it.

Aaron said...

Thank you Red Cardigan, I make no attack on Troll, it is up to each of us to follow our own conscience, hopefully informed.

Which reminds me of a phrase they used in the Legion = let your well formed conscience be your guide. I think it should be let your well informed conscience be your guide.

We all know how the legion "forms" consciences.

I read last week about another victim of sexual abuse in Ireland who reported his rape to the Irish Police at the same time as me. This was not LC related, but the DPP also declared that there was not enough evidence for prosecution. This poor victim later committed suicide. It was a shocking story for me to read, the priest has been accused many other times it would seem.

I work with children quite a lot, It disturbs me to think how someone could manipulate and take advantage of children and the youth.

I sincerely hope I have been able to prevent more abuse.

TROLL said...

Aaron, did you make a presentation to Archbishop Chaput as part of the Apostolic Visitation?

Anonymous said...

Aaron,

You can't form whatever remains of his conscience.

But you don't need to tell him any more of your business.

Lauretta said...

Aaron,

This comment would seem to back up your assertions as well:

One of these "difficult and thorny cases" was the case of Marcial Maciel. But other charges are still pending against other Legionaries, for acts similar to those committed by their founder. It is clear that the congregation will have no future if it does not purify itself of this "filth".

This was where I found the quote:
http://chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it/articolo/1342498?eng=y

As usual, Aaron, your calmness, charity, and clarity in presenting your case continue to inspire and humble me. You are a marvelous example of how a Christian should react to injustice and I can only hope to one day come near to the example you have shown.

Anonymous said...

Troll -
are you an RC member?

Aaron - God bless you for your honesty and courage.

aaron said...

Yes I presented it to the visitators for Europe, North America, Mexico and South America. I did not supply it to the Italian Visitator simply because I could not find an address. The Mexican visitator especially told me he would include my testimony in his report. I don't know what exactly that means. I offered to meet any/all of them face to face.

Anonymous said...

Thank you Aaron for your courage. I'm sorry that it's taken so many years for the Church to come around and take these allegations seriously. I do believe there is inter-generational abuse in the Legion, and I do trust that BXVI is taking it all very seriously. Thank you for being so brave and sharing your story. I believe you are helping to prevent further abuse.