Thursday, January 3, 2013

Repost and request

Okay, so this cringeworthy video is NOT a parody.  Um, er.  Okay, then.

I'd like to request that somebody with YouTube and music skills make a parody video re: the women's ordination question, though.  I'd gladly offer my parody lyrics below as a possible song choice, though I'm sure there are better options out there:
The Priestess Connection (with apologies, sung to the tune of the Muppets' song, The Rainbow Connection)

Why are there so many
Stoles made of rainbows
And vestments that are tie-dyed?

Rainbows are symbols
Of womyn's confusion
And yet represent gay-pride

Get on the boat and wrap sheets all around you
Mu-mus and trinkets and sea
Someday they'll find it, the Priestess Connection
Athena and Isis and me.

Who said that only men
Could stand at the altar?
(God did. But we just don't care)

Somebody told us that
And some may believe it
We say it just isn't fair

We've gone as far as we can with star-gazing
Tarot cards, crystals, and tea
We want to find it, the Priestess Connection
Demeter and Freya and me...

(...all of us can cast a spell
Though mostly we're just comi-tragic...)

Have you dozed off at lunch
And heard mystic voices?
Calls to the priesthood for dames,

Was it the voice of fate
Or maybe the pizza?
Where can we place the blame?

I think Dan Brown is the one who began it
Or people who think God is "She"
Someday we'll find it, that Priestess Connection,
Minerva and Lilith and me..., excommunication...
la la la I cannot hear youuuuuu......! 



vera said...

"Who said that only men
Could stand at the altar?
(God did. But we just don't care)"

Hm. But then God said that "we are all equal (brothers) and we are not to set up anyone as Father over us, as there is only one Father who is in heaven." But Catholics, they don't care... ;-) (Many protestants don't either.)

Rebecca in ID said...

Vera, I'm always very careful to call my paternal parent "dad" so as to avoid "father", because I'm sure the Bible really does mean that we're not supposed to call anyone "father". Also I avoid the word "good" since Jesus said only God is "good". :)

JoAnna Wahlund said...

I love it!

vera said...

Heh. Good points, Rebecca. Nothing like a nice argumentum ad absurdum! :-)

Since the paragraph (context) in the Bible is about human equality, it is highly likely that biological paternity was not meant. The context is about the uses or abuses of power... it seems to me. And to call priests Fathers and Popes, well, that is about power, ain't it?

(And "good" is a reminder about humility. IMHO, of course. ;-))

How do you read the passage in question?

Tony said...

Here you go, Erin. Let me know if you have problems viewing it.

Tony said...

You're welcome. It's neat how the ladies seem to be dancing to Kermit. :)

Red Cardigan said...

Tony, I've posted it above! You're amazing. :)

Is that you singing in the video? Terrific voice!

Tony said...

Yeah, that was me singing. I tried to sound like Kermit. I hope I pulled it off. There were a few steps to produce the video. Now I can produce a parody track on anything. :)

Red Cardigan said...

My oldest daughter says you sounded a lot like Kermit! :)

Rebecca in ID said...

Vera, well with paternity there is a certain amount of "power" or authority, but the idea is mostly one of protection and guidance. Just as each family has a father for protection and guidance, communities larger than families can have paternal figures for the same purpose. I don't think anyone should feel threatened by the idea that there can be men given a special role of spiritual protection and guidance. It seems to me that the passage in Ephesians, "Of whom all paternity in heaven and earth is named" makes a point similar to the words of Jesus; it is a reiteration that any fatherhood that there is, comes from God Himself. Just as any good that there is, comes from God Himself, but we do not need to be afraid to call things good, as long as we remember this derivative quality. In fact it is the remembering that human fatherhood is derivative which *protects* it from abuses of power which it is subject to when men try to guide/rule others without reference to God as our common Father and the Good of all things.

vera said...

*Does* it in fact protect it from abuses of power? That is not what the history of the Catholic Church shows, is it? Does -- for example -- the reverent term Father actually make it easier to sexually abuse young boys who are naturally conditioned to defer to the authority of their own bio fathers?

Mat 23:9+ "But you, do not be called 'Rabbi'; for One is your Teacher, the Christ, and you are all brethren. Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. And do not be called teachers; for One is your Teacher, the Christ. But he who is greatest among you shall be your servant. And whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."

You may then exhort Jesus to "not feel threatened* by men given special authority under these names. Is that it?

The whole article started with Erin making fun of those who would like to see women in priesthood because of what God said. Well, it seems pretty clear that Jesus was exhorting us to be extremely careful about the perks of power, and reminding us of our God-created equality. And you Catholics shrug it off. So why not shrug off women priesthood too? Same logic.

Rebecca in ID said...

I don't get it, Vera, I agree with you that Christ is warning us about the use of power and is reminding us that the titles "father" or "teacher" are indicative of servant roles. The Catholic Church is not shrugging off the meaning of Christ's words. Of course there are sometime abuses of power, particularly when people do *not* remember Christ's words. The woman in the video, on the other hand, expressly is saying we shouldn't listen to St. Paul! It seemed like you were saying "oh yeah well Catholics disobey Scripture because they call men "father", and all I was saying is that if you truly take Christ to be saying that, you'd have to be pretty extreme to be consistent in that position.

vera said...

I wasn't saying that Catholics disobeyed Scripture because they call *men* father. I was implying that they disobey Scripture when they give priests fancy titles with gobs of power over other people attached.

(I didn't watch the vid, I was just going on what Erin said.)

How about actually *practicing" that we are all brothers and sisters, equal, and nobody to be exalted over others?!